big brother: November 2007 Archives
'ReputationDefender' offer a service to, amongst other things, 'find out everything that's being said about you online and get rid of the content you don't like.'
Pity that it's a scam.
'Powered by Search & Destroy', their service 'scour[s] the internet to dig up every possible piece of information about you, and then we present it to you in an interactive monthly report,' and '[n]ext we DESTROY. You can select the content from your report that you don't like. This is where we go to work for you. Our trained and expert online reputation specialists use an array of techniques developed in-house to correct and/or completely remove the selected unwanted content from the web.' (Emphasis added)
Their services are based on a false premise - that it's possible for them to 'destroy' content posted on third-party websites. Their website is deliberately vague on how they supposedly do this, but it's not at all clear to me how they can 'destroy' other people's content without criminal computer crime being involved.
It's possible that their 'destroy' service really just consists of sending out nastygrams threatening to sue the pants of everyone saying anything that their clients 'don't like.' In which case, their marketing-speak contains a stack of likely contraventions of s 52, 53, and 55A of the Trade Practices Act 1974 (Cth).
A novel interpretation of s 60 might mean that their nastygram campaigns, in and of themselves, contravene the TPA. If the service they supply their customers consists of using 'undue harassment or coercion' against third parties, I think this is quite arguably 'in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or services to a consumer', in contravention of s 60. The section doesn't say the 'undue harassment or coercion' has to be used against the customer. A bit of a stretch, granted, but hey, I said it was a novel interpretation.
Articles such as this one tend to suggest that rather than 'destroying' content that their clients want to disappear, they setup new sites containing more positive information, and use SEO techniques to ensure that the 'positive' material appears in search results before the 'negative' material. Still, this isn't 'destroying' the negative content in any way, shape or form.
The marketing for their services are based on another false premise - that you can or should be able to 'get rid of the content you don't like' on the Internet. I notice that on their FAQ they claim to respect the First Amendment, and so they don't go after the media or the government. They seem to have forgotten that the First Amendment applies to everybody in America - not just organizations with money and lawyers. Everybody else -- including but not limited to me -- is presumably fair game.
People have a right to engage in lawful speech on the Internet without organisations such as ReputationDefender threatening to sue them for saying things that their clients 'don't like'.
Their marketing to parents -- eg 'Don't let the internet ruin your child's reputation' -- seems to be little more than scaremongering. They're relying on parents' fear and ignorance about the Internet to promote an expensive (US $29.95 per "destroy") for-profit service that can't legally do what it claims to do.
Then again, I probably shouldn't criticise them. If they decide this posting harms their reputation, they'll probably just 'destroy' it.
Pity that it's a scam.
'Powered by Search & Destroy', their service 'scour[s] the internet to dig up every possible piece of information about you, and then we present it to you in an interactive monthly report,' and '[n]ext we DESTROY. You can select the content from your report that you don't like. This is where we go to work for you. Our trained and expert online reputation specialists use an array of techniques developed in-house to correct and/or completely remove the selected unwanted content from the web.' (Emphasis added)
Their services are based on a false premise - that it's possible for them to 'destroy' content posted on third-party websites. Their website is deliberately vague on how they supposedly do this, but it's not at all clear to me how they can 'destroy' other people's content without criminal computer crime being involved.
It's possible that their 'destroy' service really just consists of sending out nastygrams threatening to sue the pants of everyone saying anything that their clients 'don't like.' In which case, their marketing-speak contains a stack of likely contraventions of s 52, 53, and 55A of the Trade Practices Act 1974 (Cth).
A novel interpretation of s 60 might mean that their nastygram campaigns, in and of themselves, contravene the TPA. If the service they supply their customers consists of using 'undue harassment or coercion' against third parties, I think this is quite arguably 'in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or services to a consumer', in contravention of s 60. The section doesn't say the 'undue harassment or coercion' has to be used against the customer. A bit of a stretch, granted, but hey, I said it was a novel interpretation.
Articles such as this one tend to suggest that rather than 'destroying' content that their clients want to disappear, they setup new sites containing more positive information, and use SEO techniques to ensure that the 'positive' material appears in search results before the 'negative' material. Still, this isn't 'destroying' the negative content in any way, shape or form.
The marketing for their services are based on another false premise - that you can or should be able to 'get rid of the content you don't like' on the Internet. I notice that on their FAQ they claim to respect the First Amendment, and so they don't go after the media or the government. They seem to have forgotten that the First Amendment applies to everybody in America - not just organizations with money and lawyers. Everybody else -- including but not limited to me -- is presumably fair game.
People have a right to engage in lawful speech on the Internet without organisations such as ReputationDefender threatening to sue them for saying things that their clients 'don't like'.
Their marketing to parents -- eg 'Don't let the internet ruin your child's reputation' -- seems to be little more than scaremongering. They're relying on parents' fear and ignorance about the Internet to promote an expensive (US $29.95 per "destroy") for-profit service that can't legally do what it claims to do.
Then again, I probably shouldn't criticise them. If they decide this posting harms their reputation, they'll probably just 'destroy' it.
Many news outlets are reporting that a 'terrorist' prosecution in NSW has fallen on its arse because the court ruled evidence obtained in certain interrogations to be inadmissible, because of 'misconduct' by ASIO and the AFP. But it's only when you read the judgment -- R v Al-Haque [2007] NSWSC 1251 -- that you find out exactly how egregious the conduct of the ASIO officers was.
I encourage you to read the judgment in full. The high points are that three ASIO officers:
The list goes on. Adams J criticised (at [52]-[54]) the evidence of one of the ASIO officers involved as evasive and dishonest. His Honour found that:
The gallant men and women saving us all from terrorism just can't get a break these days. First the Victorian Court of Appeal quashed the convictions of 'Jihad' Jack Thomas, because overseas officials and a mysterious American (whom he believed to be a CIA agent) had threatened him with being shipped off to Afghanistan to be tortured by having his testicles twisted, or threatening to send people to Australia to rape his wife.
And then Mohamed Haneef gets off the hook because they had no evidence against him. Not that that little fact stopped them from telling the courts otherwise. And you never know -- maybe if they'd kept him locked up without trial for a few years, he might have confessed anyhow and saved the government the hassle of that whole 'burden of proof' and 'beyond reasonable doubt' stuff. It worked for David Hicks!
And now this. Adams J even had the gall to quote (at [60]) the judgment of that pinko commie Kirby J in Ruddock v Taylor [2005] HCA 48: ([137]-[139])
When will these pesky judges realise that the rules have changed, and that all pre-11/09/2001 authorities on the rights of individuals against the government are no longer good law? We're at war, people! Sacrifices need to be made. Civil liberties are an outdated concept, and a tyrannical surveillance state is preferable to a risk of being killed in a terrorist incident which is statistically about the same as the risk of being killed by lightning.
Maybe once Peter Faris QC has his way and the use of torture is legalised, they'll be able to get confessions from all these innocent people and make them stick. Then we can all feel safer.
(For the avoidance of doubt, the above several paragraphs are, of course, sarcasm)
I hope that Ul-Haque sues the government, and the agents who kidnapped him. I also hope that ASIO and the AFP once and for all get the message that coercing confessions is morally and legally wrong and the courts will slap them down where they do it.
But I doubt they will.
I encourage you to read the judgment in full. The high points are that three ASIO officers:
- Had no warrant for the arrest of the accused, or any lawful authority to detain him;
- Confronted the accused (a 21 year old) in the car park of a train station at night;
- Told him:
- that he 'was in serious trouble' and that 'you need to talk to us and need to talk to us now';
- that they 'were doing a very serious terrorism related investigation' and that 'we require your full cooperation';
- that they were taking him 'somewhere to have a private discussion';
- Then took the accused by car to a public park (as opposed to, say, a police station!);
- Told him:
- 'you're in a substantial amount of trouble. We are conducting a very serious terrorist investigation at the moment and that investigation has lead us to you. We have many means of investigation and we hold considerable information about you. What we now require from you is your full co-operation with ASIO in resolving the matter by being honest with us';
- 'we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way. Either you should co-operate with us or there'll be consequences for you, and it's in your own benefit that you keep talking to us'
The list goes on. Adams J criticised (at [52]-[54]) the evidence of one of the ASIO officers involved as evasive and dishonest. His Honour found that:
- The ASIO officers deliberately used language that suggested they had lawful authority to detain the accused and to require him to answer their questions; (at [34])
- The accused 'was intentionally given to understand that he was under an obligation to accompany the ASIO officers and answer their questions'; (at [27])
- The ASIO officers in fact detained the accused, although they knew they had no authority to do so; (at [35])
- The accused 'believed he was under arrest and that if he did not comply with what the officers asked him that they would either use physical violence or take him to a more sinister place for interrogation or otherwise do something else to his family or him'; (at [35])
- The ASIO officers committed the common-law misdemenour (or the tort) of false imprisonment, and the common-law crime of kidnapping, as well as trespass (for other conduct not described above); (at [57]-[60] and [62])
- The ASIO officers knew that their conduct was unlawful and 'were perfectly well aware that they were not entitled to detain [the accused]' and that '[t]heir conduct was grossly improper and constituted an unjustified and unlawful interference with the personal liberty of the accused'; (at [61])
- 'The impropriety of B15 and B16 was intentional and calculated to produce the very admissions that were made. It was grave. There is no suggestion that the officers acted contrary to ASIO protocols and good reason for thinking that they did not.' (at [105])
The gallant men and women saving us all from terrorism just can't get a break these days. First the Victorian Court of Appeal quashed the convictions of 'Jihad' Jack Thomas, because overseas officials and a mysterious American (whom he believed to be a CIA agent) had threatened him with being shipped off to Afghanistan to be tortured by having his testicles twisted, or threatening to send people to Australia to rape his wife.
And then Mohamed Haneef gets off the hook because they had no evidence against him. Not that that little fact stopped them from telling the courts otherwise. And you never know -- maybe if they'd kept him locked up without trial for a few years, he might have confessed anyhow and saved the government the hassle of that whole 'burden of proof' and 'beyond reasonable doubt' stuff. It worked for David Hicks!
And now this. Adams J even had the gall to quote (at [60]) the judgment of that pinko commie Kirby J in Ruddock v Taylor [2005] HCA 48: ([137]-[139])
[The tort of false imprisonment] reflects the fundamental interest of the common law in protecting individual liberty and freedom of movement. As Fullagar J observed in Trobridge v Hardy:The mere interference with the plaintiff's person and liberty constituted prima facie a grave infringement of the most elementary and important of all common law rights.This concern is especially significant in respect of a claim for wrongful imprisonment made against members or officers of the Executive Government. It is a fundamental principle of Australia's constitutional law that the executive may not interfere with the liberty of an individual without valid authorisation. In Re Bolton; Ex parte Beane, Deane J explained:The common law of Australia knows no lettre de cachet or executive warrant pursuant to which either citizen or alien can be deprived of his freedom by mere administrative decision or action. Any officer of the Commonwealth Executive who, without judicial warrant, purports to authorize or enforce the detention in custody of another person is acting lawfully only to the extent that his conduct is justified by clear statutory mandate. ... It cannot be too strongly stressed that these basic matters are not the stuff of empty rhetoric. They are the very fabric of the freedom under the law which is the prima facie right of every citizen and alien in this land. They represent a bulwark against tyranny.
When will these pesky judges realise that the rules have changed, and that all pre-11/09/2001 authorities on the rights of individuals against the government are no longer good law? We're at war, people! Sacrifices need to be made. Civil liberties are an outdated concept, and a tyrannical surveillance state is preferable to a risk of being killed in a terrorist incident which is statistically about the same as the risk of being killed by lightning.
Maybe once Peter Faris QC has his way and the use of torture is legalised, they'll be able to get confessions from all these innocent people and make them stick. Then we can all feel safer.
(For the avoidance of doubt, the above several paragraphs are, of course, sarcasm)
I hope that Ul-Haque sues the government, and the agents who kidnapped him. I also hope that ASIO and the AFP once and for all get the message that coercing confessions is morally and legally wrong and the courts will slap them down where they do it.
But I doubt they will.
